Nothing like needing a damn legal pad to keep track of your character, and going through 5 pages of combat moves to find which one might, MIGHT give you a chance against whatever the hell that thing is that just came out of that Rift and ate Joe. Unfortunately, like their supernatural setting or TMNT (Come on guys, it was the late 80s-early 90s) it had rules for using the rules that were ruled over by another set of rules that had rules for that. I really really enjoy it, as it is a fantastic world setting that I loved back when Paladium came out with it. Wow, I had no idea there was so much hate for Savage Rifts.